Avatar wrote:Can you tell your readers of the water sources you used?
I was delighted to find a fire blazing away in a simple, stone ring fireplace and a couple of guys sitting around it, enjoying the heat.
north-north-west wrote:I was delighted to find a fire blazing away in a simple, stone ring fireplace and a couple of guys sitting around it, enjoying the heat.
You shouldn't have been. That's a Fuel Stove Only area and I'm sick to death of finding new fire scars all over it.
bigkev wrote:Hi Andrew,
Great report, I've done the circuit twice, both times in three days its certainly a ball breaker!
The first time I did it I descended straight down the spur off South Viking and ended up in those blackberry's too, like you I was a little thirsty so I ended up using my pack to flatten a path through the crap.
On my second visit I paid a little more attention to my notes and found a cairn in the scrub near the bottom of the spur where the route veered to the left, this deposited me onto a flat area just before the old fire track leaves the river for the final time to climb and meet the Zeka Spur track. No blackberry's, much better.
I've looked at the spur you mention to climb back up, but until the fire regrowth thins out a bit, I'll stick with the 4wd track.
I'm looking forward to reading the rest of the Hiking Fiasco report, should make for some chuckles as he goes up and over The Viking.
Thanks for sharing your blog.
JimS wrote:Andrews negative comments about the Zeka Spur Track have been echoed by many other contributors to this forum over a period of time. Yes it is a steep dusty boring way out of the Wonnangatta Valley and even the section of closed overgrown track at the top has little to recommend it especially the number of fallen trees and limited views. A much better alternative on this circuit walk when you arrive at the river is to head upstream along the overgrown 4WD drive track that crosses the river a couple of times and while heavily revegetated it has an obvious fairly clear pad along it created by the numerous sambar deer in this area. Despite the rumours of blackberry infestation our party of four did not have much difficulty with only an occasional thicket that the deer had cleared a path through (this was in March 2012). At approx. 3 km up the river you cross a small stream coming in from the south (some flat spots here for camping here if you want to). This point is directly opposite a high hill marked as 947 metres on topo maps. By heading south on the west bank of this stream a short distance you quickly pick up a steep narrow spur that climbs south-west then westerly. It is quite open, no scrub to deal with, no cliffs and becomes a rocky clearly defined route popping out next to the Devils Staircase and almost at Mac Springs hut. Some good knolls along this narrow ridge give views as you climb. Interestingly all the way up was evidence of deer traffic, I guess they also know the most direct and quickest way back up to the snow plains with no fallen trees! If you can navigate from Sth Viking to the river you should have no trouble navigating this more interesting way out of the valley and avoid the dreaded Zeka road slog.
dplanet wrote:JC’s alternative route seemed reasonable. However, I could avoid a direct climb to the top of the knoll at 853m by sidling a bit below it. A hidden cairn in the scrub is at grid ref 04 76.8 E 58 87.6 N. It was a slow going due to the rough terrain and the thick scrub; therefore, the SSW or west-heading plan was abandoned. Now, I had to head east or southeast to meet up with Zeka Spur Tk. I followed a path down a gully, crossed it then climbed a little to reach a grassy plain. From here, a pleasant stroll with a few gentle ups led me to the Zeka Spur Tk. After following it up & up for a while, then bingo, I heard car/s approaching and was given a lift up Howitt Road.
JimS wrote:Andrews negative comments about the Zeka Spur Track have been echoed by many other contributors to this forum over a period of time. Yes it is a steep dusty boring way out of the Wonnangatta Valley and even the section of closed overgrown track at the top has little to recommend it especially the number of fallen trees and limited views. A much better alternative on this circuit walk when you arrive at the river is to head upstream along the overgrown 4WD drive track that crosses the river a couple of times and while heavily revegetated it has an obvious fairly clear pad along it created by the numerous sambar deer in this area. Despite the rumours of blackberry infestation our party of four did not have much difficulty with only an occasional thicket that the deer had cleared a path through (this was in March 2012). At approx. 3 km up the river you cross a small stream coming in from the south (some flat spots here for camping here if you want to). This point is directly opposite a high hill marked as 947 metres on topo maps. By heading south on the west bank of this stream a short distance you quickly pick up a steep narrow spur that climbs south-west then westerly. It is quite open, no scrub to deal with, no cliffs and becomes a rocky clearly defined route popping out next to the Devils Staircase and almost at Mac Springs hut. Some good knolls along this narrow ridge give views as you climb. Interestingly all the way up was evidence of deer traffic, I guess they also know the most direct and quickest way back up to the snow plains with no fallen trees! If you can navigate from Sth Viking to the river you should have no trouble navigating this more interesting way out of the valley and avoid the dreaded Zeka road slog.
wildlight wrote:My recollection is that the northern water source is to the west of the red line. As we walked towards the Viking from Viking Saddle, we swung west (to the right) and the instance of water occurred in a narrow cleft, well shaded and rising abruptly in front of us. So we were walking up an incline, then all of a sudden it was vertical in front of us, and very shaded- there was the water.
As for the "Southern" area water on the Viking:
It was not very far in vertical meters, below the summit. In terms of vertical, it was about 50 meters, and linear distance perhaps 100 or 150 meters off to the southwest. It was very unexpected- A massive 5 meter high compact pile of rocks, and I went around the southern side to explore photo potential. Looking down into the base, I saw a dining-table sized opening, with a pool of water, very well shielded and in an ideal place- southerly runoff, as well as direct drainage from rocks.
Drew wrote:dplanet wrote:JC’s alternative route seemed reasonable. However, I could avoid a direct climb to the top of the knoll at 853m by sidling a bit below it. A hidden cairn in the scrub is at grid ref 04 76.8 E 58 87.6 N. It was a slow going due to the rough terrain and the thick scrub; therefore, the SSW or west-heading plan was abandoned. Now, I had to head east or southeast to meet up with Zeka Spur Tk. I followed a path down a gully, crossed it then climbed a little to reach a grassy plain. From here, a pleasant stroll with a few gentle ups led me to the Zeka Spur Tk. After following it up & up for a while, then bingo, I heard car/s approaching and was given a lift up Howitt Road.JimS wrote:Andrews negative comments about the Zeka Spur Track have been echoed by many other contributors to this forum over a period of time. Yes it is a steep dusty boring way out of the Wonnangatta Valley and even the section of closed overgrown track at the top has little to recommend it especially the number of fallen trees and limited views. A much better alternative on this circuit walk when you arrive at the river is to head upstream along the overgrown 4WD drive track that crosses the river a couple of times and while heavily revegetated it has an obvious fairly clear pad along it created by the numerous sambar deer in this area. Despite the rumours of blackberry infestation our party of four did not have much difficulty with only an occasional thicket that the deer had cleared a path through (this was in March 2012). At approx. 3 km up the river you cross a small stream coming in from the south (some flat spots here for camping here if you want to). This point is directly opposite a high hill marked as 947 metres on topo maps. By heading south on the west bank of this stream a short distance you quickly pick up a steep narrow spur that climbs south-west then westerly. It is quite open, no scrub to deal with, no cliffs and becomes a rocky clearly defined route popping out next to the Devils Staircase and almost at Mac Springs hut. Some good knolls along this narrow ridge give views as you climb. Interestingly all the way up was evidence of deer traffic, I guess they also know the most direct and quickest way back up to the snow plains with no fallen trees! If you can navigate from Sth Viking to the river you should have no trouble navigating this more interesting way out of the valley and avoid the dreaded Zeka road slog.
A group of us might be doing this walk over Easter. I did it Cup Weekend 2012 and loved it despite a bit of getting lost and the sections of hellish scrub. I'm keen to avoid the road slog on the last day so am looking at alternative routes for the climb from the river. The options seem to be John Chapman's route (or dplanet's slight variation on it) or heading upstream to about 745846 and taking the spur climbing west then south west to near Mac Springs. I guess I'd love it if anyone could tell me which option is easiest! Multiple river crossings and blackberries heading upstream makes the latter option seem less appealing. However if the river isn't too high and if the deer have maintained the track well then it could be fine. The road slog is a horrible way to end the walk, but my companions probably won't be too happy with me if I lead them on a prolonged bush bash instead!
Also, has any collected water at Viking Saddle recently? Hopefully some of the rain this week will make it up that way.
Cheers
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